Talk:Franjo Tuđman
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Franjo Tuđman article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3Auto-archiving period: 2 months |
The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to the Balkans or Eastern Europe, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
This topic contains controversial issues, some of which have reached a consensus for approach and neutrality, and some of which may be disputed. Before making any potentially controversial changes to the article, please carefully read the discussion-page dialogue to see if the issue has been raised before, and ensure that your edit meets all of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please also ensure you use an accurate and concise edit summary. |
This page is not a forum for general discussion about Franjo Tuđman. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Franjo Tuđman at the Reference desk. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Text and/or other creative content from Vrhovnik was copied or moved into Franjo Tuđman with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
Vrhovnik was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 16 January 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Franjo Tuđman. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Bosnian war section
[edit]The second para starts with "The Bosniak leadership initially showed willingness to remain in a rump Yugoslavia, (...)", this is just half true. In reality it was one of two currents within the SDA party, the one led by two prominent party leaders Muhamed Filipović and that other guy dissident from Switzerland, whose name I can't remember, which opted to negotiate with Milosevic and seek some way to stay within YUG. Filipovic and this other guy were in fact on the meeting with Milosevic in Belgrade, and this matter practically caused the party to break into two factions and at the first elections they were already completely separated into SDA and some other party, which was completely ignored by Bosniak electorate. Characters like Izetbegovic, Silajdzic, Ganic, Cengic, etc never even contemplated such variant, and they were key Bosniak leaders. Kristo exploiting rather simplistic view on this episode in history. ౪ Santa ౪99° 20:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Antisemitism section needed
[edit]Clearly, Franjo Tudjman left behind not only highly antisemitic academic work, as already described in the article, but is on the record of making antisemitic remarks in public as well.
Such as his 1990 election speech[1] where he makes antisemitic remarks about supposed rumors that he is of Jewish, or that his wife is either of Jewish or Serbian descent - namely that "had that been true he'd be rich and not a communist" and his happiness regarding "his wife not being either (Jew or Serb)".
The speech is easy to find on YouTube, has been since at least 2020, and it should be added, along with other instances of Tudjman's antisemitism into a new, separate, section. Clearly, from the rambling character of the speech it is obvious that such antisemitic ideas were integral to his personal way of thinking and not just a part of some political speech, perhaps prepared by someone else.
109.175.104.3 (talk) 16:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article already describes this at length, if you have a specific suggestion to make please do, otherwise this sounds like a bit of WP:SOAPBOX. --Joy (talk) 11:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia controversial topics
- C-Class biography articles
- C-Class biography (military) articles
- Low-importance biography (military) articles
- Military biography work group articles
- C-Class biography (politics and government) articles
- Mid-importance biography (politics and government) articles
- Politics and government work group articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- C-Class Croatia articles
- Top-importance Croatia articles
- All WikiProject Croatia pages
- C-Class Yugoslavia articles
- Mid-importance Yugoslavia articles
- WikiProject Yugoslavia articles
- Start-Class military history articles
- Start-Class biography (military) articles
- Start-Class Balkan military history articles
- Balkan military history task force articles
- Start-Class European military history articles
- European military history task force articles
- Start-Class World War II articles
- World War II task force articles
- Start-Class Cold War articles
- Cold War task force articles
- Start-Class Post-Cold War articles
- Post-Cold War task force articles